The idea that you can't see what's inside the cloud, but you have some kind of X-ray vision that lets you project your vision past the cloud, is absurd. Expect to do some house ruling.Īs far as the fog cloud blocking vision beyond it, it would never have occurred to me to even ask the question. (Advantage, in this case, going to the creature with momentum.)įirst of all: In this scenario, you're not going to get much in the way of definitive answers from the rules. The barbarian makes a strength save or is also knocked prone. On the off chance that your barbarian and drake are both deaf, they bowl into each other. (Depending on what happens, he might need to stand from being prone first, but if he's hasted and has another 30 feet to burn, that's probably fine.) Once the drake has resolved its reaction, the barbarian could continue its turn normally, and attack the drake. Or football block the barbarian, in which case there should be a contested athletics check, probably with advantage to the drake, since the barbarian isn't prepared. Or allow the barbarian to pass through his square but then take an attack of opportunity. As a reaction, the drake could try to trip the barbarian. The drake will certainly hear the barbarian if he is charging in, and if he is actively hiding, he will be able to take advantage of this. You would just stop the barbarian and say, "Wait! There's something in the fog here with you!" Then allow the barbarian to choose what to do next. (I would probably give advantage to a passive perception score against a creature who is standing right next to you, but disadvantage to the barbarian who is charging in, so they would cancel out.) In that case, there would be no penalty. Is the guard drake hiding in the fog cloud? In other words, has it rolled a successful stealth check and deliberately avoided actions that would reveal its position? (Fast movement, attacking, drawing weapons, talking, etc.) If the guard drake is not super well hidden, I would rule that the barbarian detects it before actually attempting to enter the creature's square.
So two people standing on opposite sides of the fog cloud would not be able to see each other.Īs for running into unseen characters in combat. It's just like any mundane visual obstruction. Seems to unlock a lot of tactical options for an outgunned low-level wizard if he has a few meatshields/pets to stand in the cloud.įog cloud definitely blocks line of sight for those outside the fog cloud as well as inside. Was that fair?Īre there rules for this? If so, what are they? If not, how would you/do you handle this scenario? Obviously I think it makes sense that, after attempting to move, the character becomes aware of a creature in the adjacent square and can choose to attack with disadvantage, but how do you handle unwittingly attempting to move into a square occupied by an enemy? I didn't have a problem making it burn movement, because well, the dude was a hasted unarmored barbarian so he has like a zillion feet of movement anyhow.Īlso, my opinion of Fog Cloud went up a lot after this particular encounter, given that the party didn't have any wind-based spells prepared to counter it. But the biggest question I have is: how do you handle, in either case, a character trying to enter the square of an enemy that he can't see?įor example, suppose Vannqkorr the hasted, blessed, raging GWM barbarian, doesn't want to lose his rage by not attacking this round, so he charges the fog cloud and tries to enter the space of one of the guard drakes, what happens? I wasn't sure, so I houseruled that it burned 10 feet of movement and he was unable to enter the space (5 ft to attempt to move in, 5 ft to move back/recover balance) and had both him and the guard drake do a low DC acrobatics check to avoid falling prone from colliding into each other. However, I'm not sure if there are official rules for this or not. It seems to me that it would block line of sight completely, granting total cover to the wizard as well. Or would you rule that the fog cloud AOE only blocks line of sight within the cloud, making the player view this: In other words, would you rule that the fog cloud's AOE blocks line of sight, making the player view this: What about the wizard casting the spell? (Red token to the left of the AOE).
Obviously the guard drakes within the cloud are hidden from the party's view, as is everything else in the cloud due to heavy obscurement. See the picture below for the "GM View" of the situation. There are guard drakes inside of the AOE, the wizard is outside of the AOE. It's a combat scenario, party comes up against a wizard who casts Fog Cloud. A situation arose in my group's session of HotDQ last week and I was curious if I could get some guidance/wisdom from the resident rule attorneys and other fine denizens of ENWorld.
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